Offside or not?

[seafordtillidie]

An incident at our game at Mile Oak on Saturday got me thinking so I thought I would share it on here...

These was a scramble in the goalmouth and one of our players had a shot at goal....

The ball struck one of our own players who was lying on the ground, from the scramble but he may have been lying in an offside position. There is no way he can have been seeking to gain an advantage because he effectively stopped the ball going into the net and preventing his own side from scoring

When the ball rebounded off him it went to another of our players who proceded to fire it into the net.

I personally don't think he was actually lying in an offside position, so the question is irrelevant in this instance, but what if he had been, would the goal have stood

Over to you

[whatever]

An incident at our game at Mile Oak on Saturday got me thinking so I thought I would share it on here...

These was a scramble in the goalmouth and one of our players had a shot at goal....

The ball struck one of our own players who was lying on the ground, from the scramble but he may have been lying in an offside position. There is no way he can have been seeking to gain an advantage because he effectively stopped the ball going into the net and preventing his own side from scoring

When the ball rebounded off him it went to another of our players who proceded to fire it into the net.

I personally don't think he was actually lying in an offside position, so the question is irrelevant in this instance, but what if he had been, would the goal have stood

Over to you

Offside Position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second last opponent
A player is not in an offside position if:
• he is in his own half of the fi eld of play or
• he is level with the second last opponent or
• he is level with the last two opponents
Offence
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the
ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of
the referee, involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position
No Offence
There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
• a goal kick
• a throw-in
• a corner kick
Infringements and Sanctions
In the event of an offside offence, the referee awards an indirect
free kick to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the
infringement occurred (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick).

In my opinion, from the way you have described it the player would have been penalised for offside.

[ugly duckling II]

Whatever's response there is exactly, word for word, what Milo suggested to the linesman after the goal was given, and he got booked for it. tsch. I dunno.

[Hotspur]

This also posts the question that if a striker lying on the ground is not offside. Then can you be played on side by a injuried defender in the same position?

[voice of the downs]

Yes.

[voice of the downs]

Yes.

[whatever]

This also posts the question that if a striker lying on the ground is not offside. Then can you be played on side by a injuried defender in the same position?

I dispair that you even need to ask that question. Just shows what match officials are up against!

[seafordtillidie]

I only posed the question because at the time the first shot came in the player who way lying down was not trying to gain an advantage, and when the ball struck him and rebounded back into the area any advantage the attacking side had was gone as if he had not been in the way it would have been a goal

Like I said in my original post I don't believe the player in the actual incident was lying offside anyway, so my question was hypothetical

[Tony Minoldo]

In a recent professional match, a defender trying to head the ball away was injured by the goalkeeper coming off his line...The defender went down clearly injured and holding his head beyond the goal line, the game went ahead and a player standing alone in front of the goalkeeper scored. I thought it was offside but the defender lying on the ground off the pitch was considered as keeping the goalscorer on side because he left the pitch without the referee's permission.

Now, to me, that's a rule that needs to be reconsidered, because the defender was clearly hit in the head by the goalkeeper.

[Hotspur]

I dispair that you even need to ask that question. Just shows what match officials are up against!

I new you could be played on side by the injured player. The point i was making was if a forward can not be considered offside when lying on the goal line then why should a defender be able to play you on side in the same posittion.